Crushing my shield...

First up, Happy Birthday to Sirs Corby and Aradd (at least that's what LJ tells me).

Next up, I have a fighting question from last night's fighter practice. I was trying to fight in something like the Oldcastle style, so my sword foot was behind the line of my shield foot, my shoulder was back, my sword behind me, and my elbow up. My knees weren't as bent as they should have been, but hey, gotta have something to work on, right? Anyway, at the end of practice, I was fighting Sir Gunther, who is 300+ pounds of muscle and has a lot of arm strength. So, what he was able to do was, collapse my shield (which was well out in front of me) by throwing a powerful shot into the front edge of it. Once my shield was suppressed, he would usually pin it there with the leading edge of his shield, and then throw wraps at my exposed back, legs, and butt.

So folks, any ideas on how to keep large guys like Sir Gunther from doing this? Is this a flaw in the style or a flaw in my understanding of it?

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corby's picture

your shield

What's your shield made of and how light is it?

It's a thick sheet of T6

It's a thick sheet of T6 Aluminum. Covered and edged, it weighs in the neighborhood of 10 lbs.


corby's picture

edge not face

my next thought would then be: when the blow comes in, are you receiving it on the face or the edge of the shield? When you catch it on the face, the blow has a mechanical advantage, but when you catch it on the edge, the shield has one.

If my in-office-fighter-mime

If my in-office-fighter-mime is correct, I think that would swing my shield way left, and would probably open me up to some killer offsides. Sure, my opponent's sword is on my shield side, but it would seem that they could flip it over for the offside in combination quicker than I could pull my shield all the way back to cover it. I can sorta half cover that by throwing a shot at the same time, but that get's predictable quick. The whole thing looks like what a new fighter does when they start rotating their hips, and end up throwing their shield to the side every time they throw a blow.

I'm going to practice tonight (assuming it doesn't rain), so I'll see what happens when I pick it up on the edge more.


corby's picture

back to the feet

it all comes back to feet.

If your stance is Oldcastle-correct, many offsides are very difficult to land. Unless you're all the way into an A range shield press onto the sword arm, a moderately open shield makes the opponent have to reach a long way across from the top corner to your offside.

In a tight press, if you don't have contact with their weapon as they start the offside, then you pull the shield sort of across/in front of their face from their right jaw to their left eye as you squat and twist your hips back. This blocks the offside blow even though they're standing toe to toe with you.

Ok, that's starting to make

Ok, that's starting to make some sense. I think the problem here is that my "technique" (if you can call it that), is falling apart when 300 lb. hog farmers close to A range. Sure, out in B and C, there's no way someone could hit me with a wrap. Now I just need to figure out what to do when I'm in A range...


corby's picture

NC Boxers

Almost everyone below the VA line keeps their sword hand in front of their shoulder in guard.

If you find yourself in A on the sword side, make sure your front shield corner rides their sword.